I find the imagery from Dany’s wedding to be troubling: innocent white woman surrounded by savage men of colour. I decided to turn the tables: innocent woman of colour surrounded by savage white men.
Ned: I know your plans. I know you seek the One Ring. I know you want to conquer Middle Earth. That’s why I’m giving you the chance to take exile in the Grey Havens.
Sauron: And what about my wrath Lord Stark?
Q:And we need to get up a mass movement to send these links full of racist, sexist bile to HBO, the creators, the sponsors, and to GRRM himself to put Linda and Ran on the spot. These schmucks are going to be making money off the licensing GRRM has given them to make ASOIAF books, etc. Now that they're showing the world exactly how racist, sexist and generally offensive they are, they need to be removed from making a profit off these ideas.
I was considering a petition, though on the GRRM side of things I don’t know how effective it will be since he seems to be real life pals with Linda and Ran. Then again, there’s only one way to find out…
How much does the actions of one partner reflect on the other? It’s easy to find all sorts of hatred that Linda’s been spewing over every platform possible. Ran, not so much with a lower profile. I know about his zealous moderating practices and sycophantry, but I could not find him spewing racist/abelist/sexist things. Does he agree with what his partner is saying, or is he embarrassed and keeps quiet about it? Does silence imply agreement? Of course if someone has something on this and wants to pass me a link, then they are welcome to do so!
Originally I was planing on sitting tight and ignoring the trainwreak that is westeros.org, but that was before Linda decided to invade the one safe space in aSoIF fandom that I had found and be nasty to its members.
Re: Dany’s armor
It looks similar to the shoulder-leather-patch thingy Qotho wore last season. It’s not Westerosi (medieval) armor like we’re used to, it’s a Dothraki thing. And the Dothraki don’t believe in big bulky armor, since it does slow one down. (And protect the organs, as Jorah demonstrated in his fight with Qotho.)
Though Qotho is dead, so that shows how much his armour was good for. I’m more loath to see women in unpractical, body-show-off armour since there is just so many of them in fantasy everywhere. GoT is the last place I thought it’d be! I want my women-in-practical armour haven :)
I love them both, so there.
I wish they had overcome their erm, ~differences, and joined up. They would have been such a badass team.
CERSEI/CAT=NEW POWER SHIP. ULTIMATE HBIC OTP RIGHT THERE.
NOT IN ‘SEXY TIME’ WAY BUT IN A ‘WE’RE GOING TO PWN WESTEROS AND MAKE EVERYONE OUR BITCH’ WAY.
HATERS CAN DEAL WITH IT.
Cersei and Cat end up on the Iron Throne FTW! The Others wouldn’t dare to touch Westeros then.
omg Joffrey why do you look so confused
UNCLE WHAT IS THIS
WHAT DOES IT DO
A KILLING MACHINE YOU SAY
I’VE NEVER SEEN SER ILYN USE IT
It looks like he’s modeling.
Like the modeling videos where they’re holding something random that doesn’t make sense but it’s okay cause they’re modeling.
I know where to put it.
Winter just came. And how.
Stop, stop, stop!
Lindaaa stop while
you’re ahead your foot isn’t in to your esophagus. At this rate you’ll be shitting out your own foot any day now.
On the subject of Jeyne and Illyrio,
Nothing is said about her skin tone (snip) Illyrio’s skin colour is never remarked upon (snip) Jeyne may be of foreign ancestry, but it is highly unlikely that her looks separate her out from the Westerosi nobility in general
Unremarked skin colour=>white. In other words, white is default. Which you know,
isn’t a major problem in fantasy is a source of much pain in the fandom. Besides which, you didn’t read the book Jeyne was introduced so you’re not using first-hand sources. Since you’re some sort of history person, I thought you might understand the importance of source material.
We don’t know exactly where the Summer Isles are, but there’s no note that I recall about them being raided by the Ironborn, so it suggests they are a fair distance out into open sea. Not a short hop away from Dorne. People in Westeros largely sail along the coasts
The Ironborn are in the north. Dorne is in the south.
Yeah, Summer Isles far from the Iron Isles means it’s far from Dorne. When it came to ships from antiquity raiders tended to go along coasts because it was more prosperous, and they powered their way with rows upon rows of oarers for minute manoeuvres, which meant close to coasts. Traders had ships with sails that caught wind on the open ocean. Pacific Islanders had amazing stellar navigation techniques that got them far. There is some speculation because GRRM is a typical fantasy author who doesn’t provide a scale on the map, and the seasons are nonphysical so I’m not sure if we can assume an Earth-sized world. Wait…
The Basilisk Isles lie about 3000 miles away, roughly the same distance as between Dorne and the Wall.
There is no scale on the map! Where are you pulling this from? (Aren’t you European; why are you using miles?) 3000 miles is about 4,828 km. That’s smaller than the region that the Pacific Islanders covered. The average Roman vessel could do 161 km/day. That’s about a month of sailing. It’s doable.
so frequent trips between Dorne and the Summer Isles…no, that’d be Summer Isle traders only.
How does infrequent trips=> traders only? So there never existed a curious noble from the black parts of the world who travelled? Who befriended Westrosi nobles? An exile who intermarried? Wait! We’ve got Dany in the inverse situation. A white exile who married local royalty twice very far from home. We’ve got Westrosi mercenaries in Essos, some of whom are noble. We’ve got Tyrion trekking the continent.
All of which goes towards the possibility that some black nobles could end up in Dorne from time to time. You keep saying how it’s impossible. Unless in some future book GRRM releases a detailed list of all noble houses that explicitly states the race of every single noble family, how can you say that there is never at least one who is a PoC?
we do not want to introduce characters from cultures that we have very little information about
You know they’re made up cultures, right? Which means that unless aspects of the culture are described the books, we can dream and use our imagination beyond GRRM’s words. That’s what fantasy is about. Imagination.
We’d be playing the sanitized version of Westeros and we’d not be dealing with the challenges that the characters face in such a society. Westeros is not a nice place. I thought that was part of the appeal of the books, the fact that it doesn’t pull any punches or presents the Disney Middle Ages.
You know what the Disney Middle Ages is? White. If whitening history isn’t sanitizing, I don’t know what is.